Phedon Papamichael, ASC was born in Greece. He made his first
trip to the United States at the age of four when his father was
the art director on John Cassavetes film Faces. He lived
in Munich from the age of six through his studies at an art academy
in Germany. During his teens and early 20s, Papamichael experimented
with a Super 8 camera, but mainly focused on still photography.
Cassavetes saw his still pictures and told him to come to New York “to
shoot his next picture.” Papamichael moved to New York when
he was about 20. He did freelance still photography for European
publications, and shot a series of short films for friends. After
a year, he moved to Los Angeles and supported himself by shooting
medical films for $100 a week. By 1988, Papamichael was shooting
one ultra-low budget film after another for Roger Corman.
He worked as a gaffer on one film, and a director on another, and
gradually began getting pictures with somewhat bigger budgets.
Papamichael became a member of the Guild in 1995 when he shot Unstrung Heroes,
a Disney movie directed by Diane Keaton.
Papamichael is still in the dawn of his career, but he has already
compiled an impressive and eclectic list of narrative credits ranging
from the TV mini-series for Wild Palms to the features Phenomenon,
Patch Adams, The Million Dollar Hotel, Moonlight Mile, Sideways,
The Weatherman, Walk the Line, and the upcoming Pursuit
of Happyness.
The followed are excerpts of the conversation:
QUESTION: So let’s start out in the
beginning. You were born in Greece, right?
PAPAMICHAEL: I was born in Greece. We came to the United States
in 1966 when my dad was working with John Cassavetes as the art
director on Faces. They shot it at John’s house.
I don’t remember much of that because I was only four. My
dad stayed and continued to work with John for a while. I moved
to Munich with my mom when I was six and went to school there.
I completed my schooling in Germany.
QUESTION: When and how did you get interested in photography?
PAPAMICHAEL: My dad was a painter, and I started drawing at a really
early age. I wanted to be a painter initially, and then I got
interested in industrial design. One day I was in a ski cabin
and everybody was asleep. There was a Super 8 camera on the table.
I remember the moment I decided to pick it up. I was instantly
fascinated with the framing. I started walking around the ski
cabin at night, sort of framing images. It was like an instant
love affair. I asked my dad to buy me a Super 8 camera, and he
got me one for my next birthday. I was probably 14. I shot and
edited a bunch of movies and tried to sync music to them with
a cassette player. I transitioned to still photography when I
bought my first 35 mm camera. I took that a little more seriously.
I wasn’t a professional still photographer, but I had some
pictures published in magazines. I wanted to be a still-photographer
for a while, but there still was that love for film.
QUESTION: When did you turn in that direction?
PAPAMICHAEL: The turning point was when I saw a Godard film called Le
Mépris. It is called Contempt in English.
Raoul Coutard shot it in wide screen Cinemascope in color. The
stars were Brigitte Bardot, Jack Palance, and Michel Piccoli.
Fritz Lang played himself. I was just fascinated by that film … the
way the camera moved and all these wide shots. It was very graphic.
It actually resembled my still photography, because I shot these
graphic, primary color surfaces with shadows and textures on
walls. It had a very similar sort of style. There was symmetry
and long, lateral camera moves. It was the first time I wrote
down a cinematographer’s name. I was a movie buff in Germany.
We watched a lot of Bunuel, Godard, Truffaut, Wenders and other
films. Around that time I realized that there is someone who
is in charge of telling stories visually. I started watching
Bertolucci’s films and was very influenced by Vittorio
Storaro’s early work on The Conformist, 1900 and Last
Tango in Paris.
QUESTION: Where did you go to school?
PAPAMICHAEL: I went to sort of an art academy in Munich, where
I was studying fine arts. I sent about 20 still photographs to
my dad, who was in the states working on Love Streams with
Cassavetes. I got a letter from John Cassavetes. I remember exactly
what it said: “Your photography captures the spirit of a
new generation in a classical form.” He told me I should
come to the states and shoot his next movie.
QUESTION: No kidding?
PAPAMICHAEL: John was like that. He would hire a big cameraman,
fire him, and then turn to the PA and say, “Okay, you’re
shooting tomorrow.” Anyway, that was very exciting news.
I didn’t really want to stay in Germany and study architecture
or whatever my Mom wanted me to study. As soon as I could, I got
on a plane and came to the United States. I was rooming in New
York with Liz Gazzara, Ben Gazzara’s daughter while they
were cutting Love Streams. She wanted to do a short film,
and had seen my stills and asked me to shoot her film. I told her
that I had never shot a film but I knew composition and depth of
field. She said, “Don’t worry about it. We’ll
get John’s camera out of the closet.” It was the Éclair
NPR that he had used to shoot Faces. It had been sitting
in a closet for a decade. We asked him and he gave it to us. We
got about $5,000 together, and cast Nick and Xan Cassavetes and
all our friends, and shot a 20-minute film. For me it was a really
sort of a learn-by-mistake experience. I remember the first dailies.
We were sitting in the screening room, and there were these blue
intermittent flashes on the film. Everyone was asking me, what
is that? I had no idea. It turned out that the magazines were leaking
light. It was a mystery to me. Why would the magazines leak light
on a professional film camera? My $500 Nikon camera didn’t
leak light. There were a lot of lessons to learn. My sticks would
slide away and then I thought somebody should invent something
that holds the legs together. Later, I learned they had these things
called spreaders. I remember inventing a way to pull focus by putting
marks on the floor. Later, I learned that other people had already
figured out how to do these things.
QUESTION: Didn’t you also do some photojournalism?
PAPAMICHAEL: I did do a little photojournalism. It was my first
income in the states. I photographed celebrities and events for
various European magazines.
QUESTION: How did you get shooting films?
PAPAMICHAEL: After Liz’s movie, I shot a bunch of shorts
for that group of friends. Of course, I wasn’t getting paid.
After a while, we moved to Los Angeles, and I began shooting medical
videos once a week UCLA for $100. I was making $400 a month. I
paid $225 in rent and lived on the rest. I kept pretty busy. I
tried to get into assisting cameramen just to make some money.
I interviewed with Robbie Müller for Barfly, Theo
van de Sande on Miracle Mile, and also with Mikael Salomon.
QUESTION: When was this?
PAPAMICHAEL: It was in 1985. I wasn’t a first cameraman,
so I didn’t get any of those jobs. I would get Dramalogue
and call people who needed someone to shoot their shorts. I ended
up shooting a UCLA graduate film. Alexander Payne was actually
the boom man on one short I shot. That was the first time I met
him. I had a reel with a lot of footage, but I hadn’t made
any money yet. Then I got my first job with Roger Corman.
QUESTION: How did that happen?
PAPAMICHAEL: A friend who was a graduate of AFI got a second unit
job directing on a picture called Deadly Dreams. She asked
if I wanted to shoot second unit with her. I was really fast because
I was mostly shooting in natural light. They introduced me to director
Katt Shea Ruben. We did three movies, almost in a row, Dance
of The Damned, Stripped to Kill II and Streets, which
had Christina Applegate playing a teenage junkie who was a hooker.
The great thing about Corman was that we had to shoot these features
in 15 days. You shot for 16 to 18 hours a day with maybe 60 setups.
I remember on Stripped to Kill II, I had 66 setups in
one day. It was just fantastic training. It was like a mini-studio
system. There was a UPM who was concerned about the budget, and
Roger Corman would come down sometimes. He had these weird hang-ups,
like we weren’t supposed to use dolly tracks. We had a PA
in the parking lot waiting for his Mercedes. If he spotted his
car, he would run in or radio us, and we would yank the dolly off
and hide the track. Corman would visit for half an hour, and then
he’d leave and we would put the track back down. The bottom
line was he didn’t really care as long as the movie had full
frontal nudity and people were getting killed. They were definitely
B movies genre films, but at the time he had actual theatrical
distribution from MGM. MGM brought me in once, supposedly to interview
me for a studio picture. I could tell in the interview what they
really wanted to know. They kept asking me how much Roger was making
these movies for, because he was actually selling them to the studio
for $1 million apiece. Body Chemistry, which I shot, ran
for five weeks in a theater in Westwood. We were making those films
for about $200,000.
QUESTION: Who were some of the other people you met at that time?
PAPAMICHAEL: Everybody always assumes that I went to AFI, because
everybody I knew and was working with at Corman’s place was
either just out of AFI or still going there…Janusz Kaminski,
Mauro Fiore, Wally Pfister and others. Janusz ended up gaffing
for me on two or three Corman films, and Mauro was my key grip.
Janusz shot second unit on Streets actually, and then
he got his own Corman movies. It was a lot of fun because we didn’t
have any stylistic or visual restrictions. We could do anything
we wanted. I remember, we went to see The Last Emperor,
and then we went back to work at Corman’s on Monday and tried
to make everything look golden. We did a lot of expressionistic
photography with colors and smoke. We could shoot in real darkness,
and it wasn’t like for a studio, where you would get execs
freaking out, saying you are taking too many chances. We could
do stylistic work and have a lot of fun. Janusz went on and shot The
Rain Killer, his first feature, and Mauro ended up gaffing
for me. Wally Pfister was an electrician at the time and he ended
up being my operator on probably 10 films. Mauro ended up gaffing
for Janusz, and he shot the first movie that Janusz directed. This
connection and friendship between us has remained for 15 years.
QUESTION: You never worked through the crew system as an assistant?
PAPAMICHAEL: Somehow I ended up being a gaffer on one very low
budget independent film. I knew nothing. I worked with Philip Holahan.
At the time, he was a first assistant. He had this super-low budget
film. I told him, I don’t really know what a gaffer does.
I remember being up the night before looking through the Mole-Richardson
catalog and trying to familiarize myself with the terminology.
I didn’t know what a butterfly was, or a C stand, Babies,
2Ks … I didn’t know any of those words. I could use
the lights if I saw them laid out in front of me but I couldn’t
ask anybody for anything. But, he helped me and it worked out okay;
so I did one movie as a gaffer. Then, we did Penelope Spheeris’ movie The
Boys Next Door. I was the second AC on that. It was a five
or six week shoot, and I got $500 a week. I was so happy. That
was so much money for me. He took me on knowing I had never been
on a camera crew. It was like an intensive boot camp for AC training
for five weeks. It was a great experience, because I learned what
to expect from and how to work with my crews later on. Philip was
an excellent first AC. Every night after wrapping, we’d be
on the tailgate and we’d have a one-hour meeting where he
went over the day, and what we did wrong. I ended up doing one
other film as second AC. The cinematographer and the first AC got
fired, so I was moved up. I pulled focus without ever having done
it before. Luckily, the whole film was shot at T- 5.6.
Later I was getting jobs from the directors who I met at Roger
Corman’s place. I met Carl Franklin, who later asked me to
shoot One False Move. We’ve remained in contact.
I think I might have mentioned Katt Shea Ruben, with whom I did
three Corman films… She got Poison Ivy for New
Line, starring Drew Barrymore, Tom Skerritt and Cheryl Ladd. That
was a $4 million dollar movie and an eight-week shoot. That was
how I transitioned out of Corman into some slightly higher budgets,
and into Studio Pictures.
QUESTION: How did that happen?
PAPAMICHAEL: Janusz had shot Wildflower for Diane Keaton.
She got her first feature as a director at Disney. It was called Unstrung
Heroes with John Turturro, Andie MacDowell and Michael Richards.
It was a really nice script. I guess Janusz recommended me to Diane
because he was busy. I had done one other studio picture. It was
called Cool Runnings with Jon Turteltaub. I had worked
with him at Motion Picture Corporation of America, which was kind
of like the graduate school of Corman. A lot of Corman people had
moved over there, and they had approached me to do a picture. I
didn’t really want to do it because it was a stupid comedy
about this East German, but they offered me a deal. If I would
shoot Jon’s movie, I would get to direct a picture. I ended
up doing the movie, which led to an extended collaboration with
Jon Turteltaub.
QUESTION: Did you actually get a chance to direct?
PAPAMICHAEL: I did direct a movie there. It was called Sketch
Artist. That was right after Poison Ivy. I cast
Drew Barrymore, Sean Young and Jeff Fahey. It was a Showtime
original with a 25-day schedule. I asked Wally Pfister to shoot
it. That was one of his first features and our first collaboration
as cinematographer/director. He got nominated for an ACE award,
which is the cable award, for best cinematography.
QUESTION: When did you get into the Guild?
PAPAMICHAEL: That happened on Diane Keaton’s film Unstrung
Heroes in 1995. I asked my key grip, Rafael Sanchez, to
be the gaffer on that project. He said that he had to think about
it and talk with his wife, because everyone knew him as a key
grip. Three days later he called and he said he decided he wanted
be the key grip on the film. I told him that that job was no
longer available. He took the gaffing job, and has been my gaffer
for 18 features. He’s become one of the most sought after
gaffers in Hollywood.
QUESTION: Were you ever tempted to concentrate on directing?
PAPAMICHAEL: I don’t think of myself as a cinematographer
or director. I think of myself as a filmmaker. When you’re
working on a studio picture, you are an element of this big machine
with a function that is much more defined. There are places in
Europe where cinematographers are considered the country’s
greatest filmmakers, more so than directors. They are considered
the true artists. But usually it’s a collaborative effort.
I feel like I have a job as the cinematographer, but I’ll
still direct if it’s a film I’m interested in. I’ve
also written two scripts that are in development that will probably
happen over the next couple of years. But, that doesn’t compete
with what I do as a cinematographer. They are little stories I
want to tell, but nothing will replace what I do as a cinematographer.
As a director, you have to be a politician. You have to be able
to deal with movie stars, the producers and the studio. We’re
very fortunate as cinematographers, because everybody thinks they
can write; everybody thinks they can direct; everybody thinks they
can edit; but nobody assumes that they can do what we do, which
is tell the story visually with light and motion. It’s a
mystery to them. We still have this mystique about what we do.
The producers don’t tell you what to do… which they
do with the director and writers. We have been in a unique and
fortunate position.
QUESTION: When did you start getting into commercials?
PAPAMICHAEL: I transitioned into commercials really late. I had
done probably 15 features, but I couldn’t get commercials
because I didn’t have a reel. What happened was that feature
directors began hiring me to shoot their commercials. Before I
did Million Dollar Hotel with Wim Wenders, I had done
a whole bunch of commercials with him. That was sort of our introduction.
We discovered that we had very similar aesthetics.
QUESTION: How did you start doing commercials with him?
PAPAMICHAEL: A friend who produces independent films introduced
us. Deepak Nayar is his name. He produced a lot of David Lynch
films, and he had worked with Wim on The End of Violence.
We met for dinner. I had done White Dwarf with Deepak.
About a week later, Wim called and said, “We’re doing
a Renault commercial in Buenos Aires in two weeks. Do you want
to do it?” I did that commercial, a Cadillac spot, and a
commercial for the German railroad in Munich. That was our testing
ground, and then we did Million Dollar Hotel.
QUESTION: In 1998, you shot Patch Adams, a totally different type
of film. Will you tell us about that?
PAPAMICHAEL: I try to mix it up. That film and America’s
Sweethearts achieved exactly what they were supposed to do… they
were pure entertainment, and I’m not putting that down. They
were sort of a turning point for me in terms of doing commercial
Hollywood studio pictures. I had a string of lower budget movies, Cool
Runnings, Unstrung Heroes and While You Were Sleeping,
were all low budget pictures that made a lot of money. Before I
really realized it, I was sort of this mainstream Hollywood studio
guy, which was not where I wanted to go. I was making good money,
and I was working all the time, but creatively, it wasn’t
satisfying. Unstrung Heroes helped turn me in a different
direction, and then I did the Wim Wenders picture. It didn’t
play that well in America, but it got me a lot of international
attention.
QUESTION: What role do commercials play in your career?
PAPAMICHAEL: Sometimes it’s a director who I have a relationship
and like a lot. I know we’re going to have a good time doing
them. Sometimes I’ll string some commercials together, because
it enables me to wait for a director or a project I really to do.
I have this rule where I don’t want to do a feature film
unless I would personally pay $10 to see in a movie theater. I’ve
been lucky, because I work on movies that I like and I’m
in a position to wait for projects that I like.
QUESTION: How do you pick movies that you would like to shoot?
PAPAMICHAEL: The two main factors are the script and director,
but it’s never that simple. Sometimes I will get a good script
but it’s not a director who I want to work with at least
on that project. Sometimes I will get a script that’s not
that great, but there is a director who I think can do something
with that material, or it is an interesting director who I want
to work with. Ideally, you are happy with the script and the director,
and those are the only deciding factors. I will work on a lower
budget films if I like the script and the director. It doesn’t
have to be a famous director or a well-known, established director.
I will usually look up their work and try to look at some of their
movies. If I think they are interesting, I’ll try to work
with them.
QUESTION: Are there directors who you want to work with?
PAPAMICHAEL: There are four or five directors who I’ve worked
with in the past who I’d like to work with again. The schedules
are usually more reliable on Hollywood films. Those movies usually
get made on schedule. In Europe, you never know. I did a movie
in the Republic of Georgia with Nana Dzhordzhadze. It was called 27
Missing Kisses. She’s been trying to schedule her next
movie for literally four years. It keeps getting delayed. It’s
the same with Wim Wenders. I would have liked to work on Don’t
Come Knocking. It was on and off for three years. I was sort
of waiting for it, but when financing finally came together, I
was on Walk the Line. I feel sorry for the cameramen and
filmmakers in general in Europe. Wim Wenders is a guy who has won
Cannes, the Palm d’Or, the Golden Bear, and Golden Lion in
Venice, and he can’t get a movie financed. They can wait
two or three years, and their project it just goes away completely.
People can criticize the Hollywood studio system, but it’s
not as random.
QUESTION: What are some of your films that you feel particularly
good about?
PAPAMICHAEL:
Unstrung Heroes is one. It was directed
by Diane Keaton. Unfortunately it wasn’t seen by a lot of
people, but I’m still very happy with it. I recently screened
it at AFI. They asked me what movie I wanted to screen for their
students, and they found a really nice print. I thought it held
up really well.
Million Dollar Hotel didn’t really
find an audience in this country, but I think visually it’s
one of my favored movies. It’s interesting when I travel
to film festivals around the world, to see how different cultures
respond to different films. In Poland,
Million Dollar Hotel is
considered one of the greatest films of the last decade. I was
at the CamerImage festival and people told me that they’ve
seen that film eight or nine times, and it’s not just the
younger generation. They also liked it in Italy and in Japan, but
the French and the Germans hated it. It just goes to show how film
is such a unique language that can work around the world. I also
feel very good about
Walk the Line.
QUESTION: What is it that makes Walk the Line so
special?
PAPAMICHAEL: Usually the first time I see a finished film, I think
maybe I could have handled this or that differently, because it’s
not working. In my first viewing of that film, I was just immediately
drawn into the story. I thought the performances were captivating
and the dramatic moments were there. The picture flowed. I was
just completely drawn in and involved.
QUESTION: Did you know anything about Johnny Cash before then?
PAPAMICHAEL: Very little. I probably had a couple CDs, but I’d
worked with Jim Mangold before on Identity, and Cash had
come by the set. They were working on the screenplay together.
He introduced himself to all of the crew, walked around and said, ‘Hi,
I’m Johnny Cash.’ That film was Jim’s dream project.
It took another two years until the movie actually happened, because
most studios rejected that project. Nobody could imagine Joaquin
being able to pull it off, but Jim had confidence in him. Reese
Witherspoon is a move star established in romantic comedies, so
this was a different genre for her. It was a fantastic achievement
for her.
QUESTION: How was the decision made to use their voices?
PAPAMICHAEL: Well, I think Mangold always intended it that way
and the decision was in place when they cast. Jim just didn’t
want anything artificial about the performances—that’s
not what Cash was about. The story that Reese tells is that she
had committed to playing June Carter, and after they made the deal
she was informed that she had to sing. She asked Joaquin if he
knew and asked if he was going to do it. They both decided to give
it a shot. They were terrified. It’s one thing to act, but
to sing on stage in front of all these extras is something else.
It was pre-recorded, of course, but it was their voices that we
did playbacks for most of the concert scenes.
QUESTION: Why was it important to shoot that movie at the actual
locations?
PAPAMICHAEL: It gives it an authenticity by shooting at the actual
venues. There’s not a single set piece that was designed,
other than his childhood home. That was reconstructed identical
to the actual house. I love shooting on locations.
QUESTION: Do you think the actors respond to the location?
PAPAMICHAEL: Definitely. I think like you are influenced by all
kinds of factors when you are on set. The more you can sort of
pretend that it’s real … Joaquin truly pretended that
everything was real. He wanted us to call him JR and not Joaquin.
He was Cash during the making of the picture, and anything that
reminded him we were making a movie he blocked out and denied in
his mind that it existed. When Joaquin got on stage and did the
Folsom Prison piece, the extras got so caught up, that they also
truly believed they were prisoners for that moment.
QUESTION: That was an absolutely believable and moving scene.
PAPAMICHAEL: There was a real interaction between Joaquin and them.
He was getting their feedback like a stage performer would get
from an audience. He thrived on that intensity… it affected
everybody… You want to grab that camera and go in handheld
and get that face with sweat running down a forehead. It was
a very inspiring experience, and that’s how filmmaking
should be.
QUESTION: On that movie, did you pay homage to the period?
PAPAMICHAEL: I looked at footage of Cash. There’s this one
documentary that really an accumulation of shots. In one scene,
Johnny Cash is just walking through the forest with a shotgun.
He shoots a crow and injures it… he picks it up and starts
talking to it… He wants to take it home. In another scene,
he was driving in his motor home and taking June Carter back to
his childhood home in Arkansas. For the performances I tried to
recreate the lighting I observed in these documentaries and stills.
I wanted it to be authentic, and not any more beautiful or flattering
than it was in reality. It was very simple lighting with just one
hard follow spotlight hitting him. There was no great lighting
design back in those days, and no color was used. It was just one
white spotlight. The rigging gaffer that we had in Memphis had
actually worked on some Cash shows. I asked him, did Johnny Cash
ever use any color? He said that later in his career, there was
maybe a red backlight, but it was very simple… so we did
that. But most of the period look comes from the wardrobe, hair
and makeup changes.
QUESTION: How important is good production design?
PAPAMICHAEL: Vilmos Zsigmond and I were members on a festival
jury recently, and we were talking about that. He thought that
50-percent of good cinematography is good production design, wardrobe
and all the other elements. I said it was more like 80 percent.
You know it when you’re lighting a great set with a great
wardrobe. When you find yourself struggling with the lighting it’s
because something feels wrong…maybe it’s the colors
on a wall or a sweater someone is wearing. The better the elements
are in the frame the less work we have to do. Simpler is always
better. I typically use as few lights and as little equipment as
I can.
QUESTION: Were there what Conrad Hall used
to call happy accidents… things
that weren’t planned that ended up enhancing the movie?
PAPAMICHAEL: There were a lot of happy accidents. When you send
two cameras handheld on stage, and give the operators the freedom
to do what they instinctively want to do, you are going to get
some great moments that you could never storyboard, shot list or
design. Some of the takes were over five minutes, so it was really
tough work, but they got great pieces, including shots that weren’t
designed.
QUESTION: Can you think of specific one?
PAPAMICHAEL: We were really trying to fish for flares that had
lives of their own. We got older lenses that we found in the backroom
at Panavision which weren’t as sophisticated in terms of
their coatings. We were intentionally looking to get flares.
QUESTION: Will you tell me about the DI?
PAPAMICHAEL: Joe Finley at Modern was great. We went through the
whole picture from the beginning to end, and I picked like a reference
frame of each scene and timed that. He timed the first pass using
those references. I would go in and corrected what he had done.
We did it in only nine days total. We have to make the studios
understand that a DI is not this huge monster that is out of control.
That’s a misperception that comes from a couple years back
when the machines weren’t really tweaked and calibrated as
well and so it took much longer. They would have to spend a lot
of time, because when they went to film out, it didn’t translate
exactly the way they saw it on their monitor. I did have to go
to (Kodak) Premier print stock to get my true blacks and the contrast.
My overall adjustment on the print was one point of yellow, one
point of red and one point of density, and then it matched the
digital projection of the DI.
QUESTION: Has DI changed the way you work on the set?
PAPAMICHAEL: Yes, I approach my work on set differently because
of this experience. I just did this movie called Pursuit of
Happyness that was shot like a documentary with three cameras.
The director would ask me, “Can I put a camera this way,
this way and this way?” I said yes because I know that I
can do a lot to it in post. It’s really an extension of what
we do—an extension of our creative work. I’m not saying
we can get sloppy now. We just to find practical applications for
it. In Walk the Line, there is a Thanksgiving scene by
a lake that we shot in June. All the leaves were green. We decided
that was one of the compromises we’d have to make. When I
went into the DI, I remember saying, “Let’s makes those
green leaves yellow, and suddenly everything looked like fall.
The director was just blown away. He was so happy. You can use
it to create or enhance a stylized look, but you can also do very
practical things with. There is an issue there about getting paid
for our time in DI. Everyone else is paid for time in post, the
editor, postproduction supervisor, the colorist and director.
QUESTION: Why do you think that is?
PAPAMICHAEL: I think it’s a fear that the cinematographer
will create an out of control beast, by changing things and messing
with the colorist. It’s very important that we are responsible
and eliminate this fear.
QUESTION: What is Pursuit of Happyness about?
PAPAMICHAEL: The director is Gabriele Muccino. It was his first
picture in America. He did Remember Me, My Love and The
Last Kiss, two very successful movies in Italy. Will Smith
stars and is also a producer. He basically chose Gabriele to
direct this picture. It’s based on the true story of this
man, Chris Gardner, who sells medical equipment door to door,
very unsuccessfully. He decides to change his life and become
a broker. It’s a story about how through sheer determination
and persistence you can accomplish anything you want. It’s
really about the human spirit and how when you set out to do
something you can succeed. Will Smith was incredible, and his
real son played his son in the movie. We shot that in a very
non-Hollywood way. Gabriele had European sensitivities that brought
a lot of energy to the film. We ended up shooting it almost like
a documentary with two or three cameras, sometimes handheld or
with long lenses capturing a lot of running footage. We created
the feel of a race against time. He is always trying to get some
place on time. He’s on the streets running through the
crowds, trying to get to an appointment or pick up his kid, and
trying not to be late. The real Chris Gardner went on to own
his own brokerage firm and become incredibly successful.
QUESTION: What format did you shoot the film in?
PAPAMICHAEL: We shot Super 35. I used to insist on shooting anamorphic
all the time. I just loved it, having the large negative. But,
now having the DI and the new Kodak Vision 2 stocks, I’m
much less concerned. The film stocks, in general, have improved
immensely and with the DI process, I’m not worried about
the optical blowups anymore. Walk the Line would have
been really tough to shoot with anamorphic lenses, because of the
weight of the zooms in handheld shots. That would have meant to
stop and change lenses during a performance.
QUESTION: Talking about technology, there
was a two-page story in the London Financial Times recently quoting
a couple of self-professed digital filmmakers who predicted that
in the future all movies were going to be made on stage with
green screen backgrounds, and you don’t need a cinematographer
because you can see it all on the monitor and fix anything later
on, in post production. Are you hearing this?
PAPAMICHAEL: No. Like I said earlier, you still have to tell a
story. You still have to know where to put a camera, what size
lens to use, how dramatic you want to light, and if it should be
naturalistic or dramatic? All of that contributes to the storytelling,
and that doesn’t change just because you have a camera that’s
supposed to be easy to use. The technical aspect of our job was
never the challenge for me. I don’t consider myself a technical
person. In fact, I barely know where the on/off switch is on the
camera. I don’t know anything about gamma curves. I’m
just not interested in that. I see what I see and I judge it. I
know my tools well enough to achieve the results I need to, and
if there is something I don’t know, and I need to know it,
I learn it specifically for that picture. When I did Mousehunt,
I had never used Snorkel lens or Frazier lenses, but I tested and
learned how. I don’t look at anybody else’s tests.
If there’s a new stock, I shoot my own test. That’s
the only way you are going to know. I never judge any test unless
I can do an A/B or a split screen projection, because there are
so many factors. The technical part has never been what we’re
about. We’re filmmakers and storytellers. It makes a big
difference if you put a camera here or you put a camera there and
it’s a little lower and shooting up on somebody with a top
light. It’s a different effect that it tells a different
story. Those decisions will still have to be made. How many people
are coming around with a digital still camera right now? You can
give anybody a paintbrush and some oil paint…it doesn’t
mean they are all going to be another Van Gogh.
QUESTION: Will you tell us about your feelings on collaboration?
PAPAMICHAEL: I’d say that 50 percent to 60 percent of our
job is the actual cinematography, and the rest is our ability to
communicate. You have to be able to communicate with the director,
your crew and the producers. Your personality is a big factor in
getting people to want to work with you and for them to achieve
their best results. Of course, your actual work is the most important
thing, but sometimes in order to be able to achieve that there
are a lot factors involved. You have to be able to take a director
and inspire them to do things that they wouldn’t usually
do… and give them confidence that that’s the right
way to tell the story. You’ve got to know how, and that’s
where experience comes in.
QUESTION: For the second assistants, who are reading this on the
Internet, or the film school students, are you confident about
the future role of cinematographers?
PAPAMICHAEL: Yes. I think movies will continue to be made. The
budgets will probably come down, which is not necessarily a bad
thing. I think the studios are realizing that you can make really
good films for $10 or $20 million and less. There’s a lot
of product out there and there are only so many theaters, but I
think film has become the most dominant communication art form.
People want to watch movies, even if they end up watching them
at home. Their systems at home are going to be much improved, and,
in fact, some people have better viewing options at home than at
some multiplex theaters. I don’t even care if they end up
watching it at home on a great high def screen as long as the movie
is letterboxed and formatted right. People want that kind of entertainment.
It’s part of our culture. I don’t think it’s
going to go away.